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cesarfmHello, I made another pull request for the Group lasso example, now in the develop branch03:16
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@sonney2kwiking, pong again :)08:20
@sonney2klisitsyn, happy? 34 now :)08:20
gsomixgood morning08:55
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sonne|workgsomix: morning! how is your csv reader doing :)09:18
gsomixsonne|work, hm, I'll do it little later - doing some python3 related stuff09:20
sonne|workahh ok09:20
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gsomixsonne|work, btw, about csv. should I add it into shogun at once? or just develop separately?09:25
sonne|workgsomix: well a line reader function first in CFile or CAsciiFile09:26
sonne|workbut you can do as you wish09:26
gsomixok09:26
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monalisagHello, I wanted to know some details about the project Large Scale Learning & Dimension reduction using hashing.09:45
monalisagIn the project descrption it isnt mentioned but is this method anyway related to locality sensitive hashing ?09:45
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sonne|workmonalisag: a little bit maybe.10:15
sonne|workmonalisag: it is not about designing a hash though10:18
sonne|workbut more to just use a fast one to reduce #dims10:18
sonne|workand one is totally ignorant about hash collisions etc\10:19
monalisagpart of my work for this project would be to explore the kind of hashing function we can use ?10:23
monalisagor i have to use the already implemented CHash class for this purpose ?10:23
sonne|workmonalisag: it would only involve using the hash function 'MurmurHash3'10:24
sonne|workwhich is already in CHash yes10:24
sonne|workmonalisag: it is more about defining certain type of DotFeature derived classes that use this compression10:25
sonne|worke.g. you could think of n-grams and bag of words (text documents) that you could hash10:25
sonne|workor e.g. quadratic (or higher order) polynomial features10:26
sonne|workmonalisag: so one can do real large scale *non-linear* learning by computing features on-the-fly10:27
sonne|workfor example I have used this to detect splice sites on DNA10:27
monalisaggot it. thanks :)10:28
monalisagone more thing. Should I look into Vowpal Wabbit and see how they use this on-the-fly hashing trick ?10:29
sonne|workso one could do fancy applications with it w/o requiring lots of memory etc10:29
sonne|workmonalisag: no need to do this10:29
sonne|workshogun does this too10:29
sonne|workas soon as you implement the functions in CDotFeatures10:29
sonne|workvw & liblinear & ocas & sgd etc will use the on-the-fly features10:30
monalisagfor the tokenizing purposes can i take inspiration from scikit or some other library which performs similar job ?10:35
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sonne|workmonalisag: it has to be C/C++ code though. Recall that this is called billions of times10:51
monalisagI would be implementing the code myself but I would like to explore how they(other libraries) have made their code efficient in cases where the text corpuses are huge.10:52
sonne|workmonalisag: sure. It is not limited to text though. But we will have to focus on a few domains otherwise this is getting too much.10:55
sonne|workmaybe with some nice application10:55
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thoralfHey there.11:24
sonne|workthoralf: hey11:25
thoralfsonne|work: I just committed my hack - but I did not check if it has side effects.11:26
thoralfsonne|work: Is there some kind of unit or regression testing?11:26
sonne|workthoralf: yes. Might be though that we don't have any for streaming features11:26
sonne|workin any case this will either work or crash(tm)11:27
thoralfAnd how can someone run the tests locally?  I didn't find anything in the documentation...11:30
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sonne|workthoralf: make tests11:34
sonne|workthoralf: and they are run for your PR too11:34
sonne|workthoralf: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/684669611:34
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monalisaghey, could you redirect me to a source where I can read about quadritic feature hashing ?11:47
sonne|workmonalisag: it is a one-liner: hash(idx) and idx follows some enumeration of the features, e.g. when you have x_i i=0,1,2 you could have x_0, x_1, x_3 and x_0 x_1, x_0 x_2, x_1 x_2, x_1 x_311:50
sonne|workscratch the last :) there is no x_3 :)11:51
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monalisagsonne|work: will the text tokenizer and classifier code be added to shogun or it would just used as a use case for testing the implemenation of CHashedNGramDotFeatures ?12:21
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goldbugjust submitted my gsoc proposal12:40
goldbug:)12:40
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@wikingsonne|work: ping13:13
monalisagsonne|work: I have submitted my proposal. Please have a look.13:15
sonne|workwiking: do you have a python3 machine?13:39
@iglesiasgsonne|work: python3 working here if I might be able to help :)13:40
@wikingsonne|work: sorry no13:41
sonne|workiglesiasg: we need some python3 enabled buildbot13:41
@iglesiasgsonne|work: aah ok I see, I meant my laptop so I don't think we should use it as buildbot :)13:41
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ozanI am currently writing a proposal for GSOC 201314:27
ozanalready submitted a patch today https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/104614:27
ozanand contacted with potential mentor (Vojtech)14:28
ozanis there anything else I need to do after submitting my proposal to GSOC 201314:28
@iglesiasgozan: I think your PR is against master, isn't it?14:29
ozanyes should I change ?14:29
ozanis there any specific branch for that14:29
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@iglesiasgozan: see the comment here for example https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/104414:31
ozanand is there any other QDA example/application that I can test14:31
@iglesiasgozan: there ara QDA examples in examples/undocumented/python_modular and libshogun too14:31
ozanI already used them14:32
ozanok I am fixing14:32
@iglesiasgozan: I took a quick look to your PR14:32
@iglesiasgozan: one comment is that the idea of using Eigen was not because of using their structures but mainly to avoid loops in the computations and so on14:33
@iglesiasgozan: maybe I am wrong, but it looks to me like you have kept most of the loops14:33
ozanexcept the one of them yes I keep them all14:33
ozanissue is that I first wanted to get working example14:34
@iglesiasgozan: sure, good idea14:34
ozanafter finishing my application to GSOC 2013 I am planning to solve that loops14:34
ozansince deadline is today I wanted to have working patch :)14:34
@iglesiasgok14:34
ozanI think I can solve loops and prepare a new pull request next week14:35
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@iglesiasgozan: aham ok14:36
sonne|workiglesiasg: hmmhh 37 already14:36
@iglesiasgozan: there is also another PR someone sent with Eigen for QDA, you might want to take a look14:37
@iglesiasgsonne|work: how many do you guess at the end of the day?14:37
sonne|workI was estimating 3014:37
sonne|workand yesterday 3514:37
@iglesiasghaha ok no more estimates then14:37
sonne|worknow maybe 4014:38
@iglesiasgI think 40 for sure14:38
sonne|workIDK14:38
sonne|workwe had 48 last year14:38
sonne|workso almost no difference then14:38
@iglesiasggood14:38
ozanI have not seen that PR yet. I can merge my code with the PR you mentioned14:38
@iglesiasgsonne|work: it would be pretty good if we get the same #slots14:38
sonne|workyeah but we cannot count on it14:39
@iglesiasgozan: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/102814:39
@iglesiasgsonne|work: we shall see14:39
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ozanI closed my PR on master request14:41
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ozanFinally submitted my propsal :)15:00
ozanI have another question should I be enrolled as a student during GSOC15:00
ozan?15:00
ozanI am finishing my master in may and starting my PhD in september. Is it a problem ?15:00
@iglesiasgozan: I think it is better if you check GSoC's FAQ or the many mails that have been regarding that topic in GSoC's ML15:01
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Thoralf Klein :master * 875e256 / src/shogun/features/streaming/StreamingSparseFeatures.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/875e2565b13bf6cb6fba0b5ab1272b968d0c79eb15:32
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fixes #660: Hack to fix double-free (simply setting features to NULL).15:32
shogun-notifier-shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :master * 3a6d04e / src/shogun/features/streaming/StreamingSparseFeatures.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/3a6d04ea7af155e0b0779ef825a6f4f4d336ef3a15:32
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1047 from tklein23/master15:32
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Small hack to fix double-free in StreamingSparseFeatures15:32
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Evgeniy Andreev :develop * 21a894f / src/interfaces/python_modular/protocols_helper.i: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/21a894fd2605d8f262a02482ebe577837d7f78a615:34
shogun-notifier-shogun: fixed compilation with python3 bindings15:34
shogun-notifier-shogun: Evgeniy Andreev :develop * bc3e9ba / / (20 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/bc3e9ba2d971d0372730478689ceef2b180e1d5415:34
shogun-notifier-shogun: small fixes in examples for python3 compatibility15:34
shogun-notifier-shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * 2a04b18 / / (21 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/2a04b184641fd16f21e1b1b119a3f182390c03d915:34
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1048 from gsomix/feature/python3_bugfix15:34
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Pack of fixes for python3 modular interface15:34
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@lisitsynsonne|work: why do these assholes want our domains?15:44
sonne|workthoralf: argh my bad - next time please do the PR against the development branch15:44
sonne|worklisitsyn: strictly speaking they are not ours15:44
sonne|workbut everyone can get them15:44
@lisitsynsonne|work: yes of course15:45
@lisitsynsonne|work: but why?15:45
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@lisitsynsonne|work: and we've got 40!15:48
@lisitsyn:D15:48
sonne|workalready?15:49
sonne|workhmmhh15:49
sonne|workso number is about the same then15:49
sonne|work83%15:49
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gsomixshogun-buildbot, I love you too, dear15:53
gsomixlisitsyn, sonne|work 5 hours, 6 minutes remaining. there is time to write another proposal... and one more... and15:54
sonne|workgsomix: cyg1 is in berserk mode15:55
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gsomixshogun-buildbot, goow work16:17
gsomix*good16:17
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@lisitsynsonne|work: and 4116:22
sonne|workI would prefer 4216:22
sonne|workbut ok qpsize in SVMLight is set to 4116:22
sonne|worksimply because of some theorem that could prove convergence for odd numbers :D16:23
@wikingsonne|work: ok got a sec?16:27
sonne|worksec yes16:27
@wikingsonne|work: ok16:27
@wikingsonne|work: what should we do with the PRNG try16:28
@wikingkeep it or drop it?16:28
sonne|worktest it and merge it16:28
@wikingsince it did not really fix our integration problem :(16:28
sonne|worknot all of it16:28
@wikingsonne|work: ok then before doing that i'll add dSFMT16:28
@wikingso that we can generate random float vectors fast16:28
sonne|workbut even having a re-entrant rng is very worth having!16:28
@wikingmy only concern is16:28
@wikingthat for each random generation whether it's only a number or an array of randoms16:29
@wikingwe have an SG_REF/SG_UNREF pair16:29
@wikingwhich is a bit of an overhead16:29
sonne|workwiking: btw could you please merge master into develop? I accidentally merged one commit into master...16:29
@wikingmaybe i should just use it w/o the get_global_rand() and define it as extern16:29
@wikingsonne|work: ok i'll do that as soon as i have some time today16:30
@wikingthere's some other stuff on my todo list16:30
sonne|workwiking: yeah that is sth we cannot afford16:30
@wikinglike get a 10 minutes sleep :)16:30
@wikingsonne|work: you mean SG_REF/UNREF ?16:30
sonne|workc'mon sleep is overrated16:30
@wikingsonne|work: haha lol yeah16:30
sonne|workyes it should need no ref/unref16:30
@wikingok16:30
@wikingi'll fix that one16:30
@wikingand as u suggested16:31
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@wikingi'll add a non-thread safe api as well16:31
sonne|workyes16:31
@wikingoooor16:31
@wikingi mean to be honest16:31
@wikingwe could have 2 SFMT structs in the clas16:31
@wikingclass16:31
@wikingand then we dont need to reinit it16:31
@wikingit's not thaaaat big of a struct that it would start eating the memory like crazy16:32
@wiking:P16:32
@wiking1 sfmt for 32 bits and 1 sfmt for 64 bits16:32
@wikingsonne|work: your 2 cents on this one?16:32
@wikingbasically sfmt_32 and sfmt_64. inited once and that's all16:35
@wikingand have dsfmt for the doubles16:35
sonne|workyeah why not. but you would init them with the same seed for the non-thread safe api16:35
@wikingsonne|work: yep16:36
@wikingeverything the same16:36
@wikingjust that we dont have to reinit each time when we change state16:36
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sonne|workwiking: fine with me. if possible lets have one way to seed all 3 rng's16:37
sonne|workthe int/float/double one16:37
sonne|workI recall hunting bugs when still doing matlab for hours16:38
@wikingyep16:38
sonne|workuntil I figured that randn and rand have a different init/seed16:38
sonne|workand everyone who knows better can still use the thread-safe functions16:39
sonne|workthough we then have a hard time doing anything reproducible16:39
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sonne|worknow lads&gents please leave it at that :D16:43
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HaoThis is a report of "Set yourself up" part in proposal of GSOC 2013. Name: Hao Liu. Email: haoliu@nyu.edu17:46
gsomixHao, hi17:49
HaoHi:-)17:50
HaoI am interested in Large Scale Learning: loglinear time kernel expansion (aka Fast Food) project. I am still preparing my proposal, hope it's not too late.17:54
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gsomixHao, so, there are 3 hours before deadline. :)18:01
gsomixIf you have any questions about project, you should contact sonney2k directly - it's Soeren Sonnenburg.18:01
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mona2302Hi, I'm a beginner user of Shogun Can I maybe create some R-program for my entry task? I want to answer for one of entry tasks.18:06
@lisitsyn4518:10
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gsomixshogun-buildbot, dance18:17
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Haolet me try this.18:24
Hao shogun-buildbot, dance18:24
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@lisitsynsonney2k: michael schumacher in the mentors list himself!19:10
@lisitsyn:D19:10
@lisitsyn48 finally19:32
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abinayamHi19:52
gsomixshogun-buildbot, don't dance, bot, don't dance...19:52
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abinayamI have submitted my proposal on implementing robust classification methods. Is anyone out there with the same choice?19:53
shogun-notifier-shogun: Cesar Fuentes :develop * b372a7f / examples/undocumented/python_modular/graphical/group_lasso.py: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/b372a7fa8f22436bba1718232c76bdfe9a8863ae19:56
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vgorbatilisitsyn: hi, here?20:06
@lisitsynvgorbati: hey, yes20:06
vgorbatilisitsyn: I have finally started working on implementation, and I am looking through your code to find how to construct matrices of distances and angles to neighbors. It looks like using SparseTriplet's is the way?20:07
@lisitsynvgorbati: yes that's the fastest way20:08
vgorbatilisitsyn: ok, then what I can't get, is why are you reserving space for (k+1)^2 values per row? I thought that there would only k-values (1 for each neighbor) per row..20:10
@lisitsynvgorbati: in lle?20:10
vgorbatilisitsyn: yes20:10
@lisitsynvgorbati: if we put these weights per row20:11
@lisitsynwe get the W matrix20:11
@lisitsynbut later we need WW'20:11
@lisitsynso I just form WW' here20:11
vgorbatilisitsyn: got it. btw, then it looks like there is a small typo in locally_linear.hpp at line 31: should be sparse_triplets.reserve((k*k+2*k+1)*(end-begin));20:12
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@lisitsynyes 2 is missed it seems20:13
@lisitsynthanks!20:13
@sonney2klisitsyn, yes germans can only code and drive :D20:13
@sonney2klisitsyn, woa 50?!20:14
@sonney2kmore than last year? didn't expect that/20:14
@lisitsynsonney2k: yeah 5020:14
@lisitsynsonney2k: better for us I guess :)20:14
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gsomix>> 44 minutes remaining20:15
@sonney2klisitsyn, as in likely more slots yes but c'mon where is that rush coming from20:15
@lisitsynsonney2k: some of them are kind of desperate20:16
gsomixwaiting for many last-femtosecond-proposals20:16
@sonney2klisitsyn, my theory now is that people since they are only allowed to apply for 5 (instead of 20) projects, are more carefully selecting projects20:17
vgorbatilisitsyn: it's my pleasure:) I am also wondering, is the '#pragma omp parallel'  this 'OpenMP' parallelism that is mentioned on ideas page?20:17
@sonney2kand not do it in the very beginning20:17
@lisitsynvgorbati: yes that's openmp20:17
@lisitsynsonney2k: yeah they don't spread20:18
vgorbatilisitsyn: I guess I should also use it?20:18
@lisitsynit is not like fishing now20:18
@sonney2klisitsyn, btw do you know how one can stop the running openmp threads?20:18
@lisitsynvgorbati: serial first!20:18
vgorbatilisitsyn: ok, better for me)20:18
@lisitsynsonney2k: from the outer code?20:18
@sonney2klisitsyn, yes20:18
@lisitsynvgorbati: *never ever* write parallel code without serial ;)20:18
@lisitsynsonney2k: ehmm some flag may be20:19
vgorbatilisitsyn: got it, sensei:) I just thought that the problem is quite the same20:19
@lisitsynvgorbati: openmp can be surprising hard to debug sometimes20:20
@lisitsynwell once you get used to it it is easy though20:20
@lisitsynsonney2k: any way to do that with pthreads?20:20
@lisitsynsonney2k: it doesn't sound like a good practice for me actually20:21
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@lisitsynsonney2k: 5120:25
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@lisitsynhalf an hour left!20:27
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@sonney2klisitsyn, when you train some shogun method you can cancel any method by sending it the URG signal20:29
@sonney2kor press ctrl+c20:29
gsomixsonney2k, btw buildbot spams me in personal chat.20:30
@lisitsynsonney2k: we have a double player!20:30
@lisitsynpickle27 is doing stuff for scikits :)20:30
@sonney2kI used this quite a bit when doing research20:30
@sonney2klisitsyn, how do you know?20:30
@lisitsynsonney2k: got it - should be solveable20:30
@lisitsynsonney2k: https://github.com/scikit-learn/scikit-learn/pull/188520:30
gsomixsonney2k, can I perform "notify off" in personal chat?20:31
gsomixshogun-buildbot, notify list20:31
shogun-buildbotThe following events are being notified: ['failure', 'successToFailure', 'failureToSuccess']20:31
@lisitsyngsomix: youve got to change your nickname then..20:31
@lisitsynhah20:31
gsomixsonney2k, nevermind... it's all ok now20:31
gsomixlisitsyn, hey, my nickname is registered20:32
@sonney2klisitsyn, I have no idea how this could work with openmp20:33
@lisitsyn5220:33
@sonney2klisitsyn, looks like it is not possible http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8265191/force-closing-a-thread-using-openmp-in-c20:34
@sonney2kbut hey what we could do is install a signal handler20:35
@sonney2kset some global variable20:35
@lisitsynsonney2k: yeah nothing really impossible20:35
@sonney2kand then poll this variable20:35
@sonney2kthe only problem with the signal handler is that it is not allowed to run in thread context20:35
@sonney2kso it must run in the main thread20:35
@sonney2kand it is also not clear what happens if the other threads finish before we get user input20:36
* sonney2k gets drunk20:36
@sonney2kB5220:36
@lisitsynhaha20:36
@lisitsyn5320:37
@sonney2kthere goes my drink20:38
@lisitsynehm last one is ehhm20:38
@sonney2klisitsyn, please prepare an email to mentors20:39
@lisitsynsonney2k: yeah will do20:39
@sonney2konce the deadline is passed - we should have at least 2 people scoring each student20:39
@sonney2kfor students we intend to accept better >320:39
@sonney2kand if a mentor wants to accept a student he should give him some practical task to be really sure and also press the 'I want to mentor this'20:40
@lisitsyn5420:46
@sonney2klisitsyn, c'mon is it you under disguise?20:47
@lisitsynhah no20:47
@sonney2ksonney2k, tell them they should become pretty sure within next week...20:48
@sonney2kthis number of proposals is insane ... so it will be an acceptance rate of <20%20:49
@lisitsynsonney2k: ten more minutes!20:50
* sonney2k looks up the script for plotting stats20:54
@lisitsyn5520:56
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gsomixlast minute!20:59
@lisitsynthat's it21:00
gsomixlisitsyn, so what? 56?21:05
@lisitsyngsomix: yes21:05
@lisitsynhere comes a deadline mail21:08
@lisitsynoops21:08
@lisitsyn5721:08
@lisitsynI missed one21:09
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@lisitsyncrazy21:10
@lisitsynsonney2k: is that more than first year?21:10
gsomixyou are popular, guys, hehe21:11
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gsomixsonney2k, http://researchinprogress.tumblr.com/post/32893888233/reviewing-conference-papers21:16
naywhayarethe quality of applicants is... variable21:19
naywhayareI asked if they had worked with an open source project before... one applicant responded:21:19
naywhayareI have worked with many open source solutions wile creating my projects.Some of them are:MS SQL Server21:19
gsomixO_O21:19
naywhayarethat was my reaction21:20
@lisitsynnaywhayare: hah nice21:21
@lisitsynnaywhayare: how many did you get?21:21
@sonney2klisitsyn, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31480471/gsoc2013-applications.png21:21
@lisitsyncrazy curve21:22
@sonney2klisitsyn, compare to last year http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc201221:22
@lisitsynquite similar?21:22
naywhayarelisitsyn: 4121:25
@lisitsynnaywhayare: quite a lot too21:25
naywhayarethe majority came in during the past hour21:25
naywhayarethe curve probably looks about the same as what sonney2k posted21:26
@sonney2klisitsyn, not at all21:26
@sonney2klast year was 4821:26
@lisitsynnaywhayare: our last minute proposals are like spam21:27
naywhayaremany posit that they can solve extremely difficult publication-worthy problems without any supporting evidence whatsoever...21:27
@sonney2klisitsyn, exactly. In our first year we made the mistake not to require a code contribution21:28
@sonney2kso we had 70 or so proposals21:28
@lisitsynhaha21:28
@sonney2kkind of exponential growth21:29
naywhayareI might try requiring a patch next year, but them I imagine I'd have to sort through numerous patches that probably don't even work21:29
naywhayares/them/then/21:29
@sonney2knaywhayare, yes that's the price21:29
@sonney2kbut you know then who is good21:29
@sonney2knaywhayare, btw you still have until may 22 to decide21:29
@sonney2kso you should really require from every student you consider some kind of code contribution21:30
@sonney2kthis way you become very sure if the student can do the job21:30
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naywhayaredon't I have to have my projected slot allocations done by sunday though?21:31
@lisitsynnaywhayare: yeah you'd better have to21:31
@lisitsynnaywhayare: but you'll have time to finally settle it21:32
naywhayareokay, that's good21:33
naywhayareI definitely have a few students who I'd like to get in further touch with, so I am glad I have a few weeks to do that21:33
@lisitsynnaywhayare: what is the number of slots you'd like to have?21:35
naywhayareit depends on what my mentors want.  we could do up to 6 but I've been told to not expect more than 1 or 2 during the first year21:36
naywhayareso in that sense it depends more on google than the other mentors...21:36
@lisitsynsonney2k: I am going to send a welcome letters21:43
@lisitsynfor the workshop21:43
@lisitsynsonney2k: y/n?21:43
@sonney2knaywhayare, yeah first year is usually no more than 221:47
@sonney2kso you have to make tough choices21:47
@sonney2kin very rare circumstances up to 521:48
@sonney2kbut still <10% acceptance...21:48
naywhayareyeah, 2 is about what I'm expecting.  based on the ratings it looks like we have 2 or 3 standout students and 7 or 8 who could be reasonable21:48
naywhayareanyway, I have to run for now... thanks for the advice :)21:48
@sonney2knaywhayare, np21:48
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@sonney2klisitsyn, please send out the email to the mentors first21:54
@lisitsynsonney2k: yeah will do21:54
@lisitsynsonney2k: workshop mails - y/n?21:55
@sonney2klisitsyn, yes but let me fix them first21:56
@lisitsynsonney2k: let me send you draft then21:56
@lisitsynsonney2k: in your inbox21:57
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@iglesiasg56 applications OMG!22:03
@sonney2k57 even22:04
@sonney2kso much about my estimate of 2022:04
@iglesiasghehe22:04
@iglesiasgsonney2k: how many applicants?22:05
@lisitsyniglesiasg: you mean different persons?22:05
@lisitsyniglesiasg: 5 double applications22:06
@lisitsynso 52 different persons22:06
@iglesiasglisitsyn: oh impressive22:06
@iglesiasgsonney2k: I will wait for your post and the graph showing that exponential curve :)22:07
gsomixiglesiasg, hi22:11
@iglesiasggsomix: hello hello22:11
@lisitsynsonney2k: done22:13
gsomixsonney2k, cool, there is patch for lua52 support. btw how many people who use lua for ML?22:15
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@iglesiasgoh just saw the graph, crazy22:20
@sonney2kgsomix, well torch is written in lua22:22
@sonney2kso I know a couple of big shots that use it22:22
gsomixsonney2k, ok, thanks22:24
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@sonney2klisitsyn, argh argh argh22:37
@lisitsynsonney2k: ?22:37
@sonney2kI again overlooked that the PR was against master22:37
shogun-notifier-shogun: Ingvaras Merkys :master * fd4ada9 / examples/generate_documented.sh,src/interfaces/lua_modular/swig_typemaps.i: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/fd4ada911b0cbfc9a4bd1846cc6d18533435fe8c22:37
shogun-notifier-shogun: lua52 fix22:37
shogun-notifier-shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :master * 255beac / examples/generate_documented.sh,src/interfaces/lua_modular/swig_typemaps.i: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/255beac14c3952ab4443388aaa55ad673bc3745b22:37
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1056 from crunchiness/master22:37
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Fixed interface for Lua 5.222:37
@lisitsynsonney2k: you evil!22:37
@sonney2klisitsyn, is there any better way than git merge master?22:38
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@lisitsynsonney2k: I don't think so22:38
* sonney2k bangs his head against a wall22:38
@lisitsynsonney2k: what is wrong with merge?22:38
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Ingvaras Merkys :develop * fd4ada9 / examples/generate_documented.sh,src/interfaces/lua_modular/swig_typemaps.i: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/fd4ada911b0cbfc9a4bd1846cc6d18533435fe8c22:41
shogun-notifier-shogun: lua52 fix22:41
shogun-notifier-shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * 255beac / examples/generate_documented.sh,src/interfaces/lua_modular/swig_typemaps.i: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/255beac14c3952ab4443388aaa55ad673bc3745b22:41
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1056 from crunchiness/master22:41
shogun-notifier-shogun:22:41
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fixed interface for Lua 5.222:41
shogun-notifier-shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * 72f954a / examples/generate_documented.sh,src/interfaces/lua_modular/swig_typemaps.i: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/72f954a7d02bddef7deb2a8228f20fe95eb24a4c22:41
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge accidentally accepted PR against master into develop22:41
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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's Soeren Sonnenburg's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/686535822:59
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shogun-buildbotbuild #747 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/74723:00
shogun-buildbotbuild #748 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/748  blamelist: Ingvaras Merkys <ingvaras@gmail.com>, Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>23:07
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shogun-buildbotbuild #1046 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/104623:14
shogun-buildbotbuild #1047 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile lua_modular]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/1047  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>23:24
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shogun-buildbotbuild #1048 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/1048  blamelist: Ingvaras Merkys <ingvaras@gmail.com>, Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>23:53
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